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The Christian Talmud

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The Christian Talmud

Charles Ryalls

With the destruction of the temple and later expulsion of the Jews in 135 CE, the faith in the God of Israel broke sort of three ways. Rabbinical Judaism, Christianity , and the Messianic faith known most commonly as Nazarenes or the way.

Having no temple and being separated from its historical foundations Judaism reformed into Rabbinical Judaism, which is based predominantly on the writing of the Jewish sages in the Talmud. It is Talmudic Judaism.

The Christians faced with the same situation of adapting their religion to the nations and no longer centered in Jerusalem, collected the writings of the Early Church fathers to find new expression and direction.

The Nazarenes remained faithful to the scriptures alone and continued in the form seen in the Epistles, with the loss of the temple and sacrifices being the only change. They did all things according to the Judaism from which it had grown. It fact the name Nazarene is from the word “Natzar”, which means “a Shoot” that which springs up from the root.

So Rabbinical Judaism is no longer the Judaism of the bible and is based on the Talmud of the Jews, the opinions of the Jewish sages.

Christianity is based on the Christian Talmud, the opinions of the Early Church fathers.

Both of these Talmuds are filled with strange ideas and inventions of men to form a new expression and identification of faith. Both are man made and both are a departure from God’s word. The Christian Talmud is no more authoritative than the Talmud of the Jews.

Only the word of God really has bearing and traceability to God himself. We have to test everything by Gods word. It is the foundation and the plumb line.

If we look at the fruit produced by the Talmud of Christianity we find many things that are practiced and defended by referring to the church fathers but can not be substantiated by scripture, like the veneration or worship of Mary, praying to the saints, Eucharist, making sacrifices for the dead and many more things, which is part of Christendom. When you confront a Christian about these things their defense is always “The church fathers said this or that.” But what does God say? That is what really matters!

The Christian Talmud is no more reliable or authoritative than the Jewish Talmud. They are both the opinions of Fallible men and not the word of God. The Church fathers are followed by tradition but they are not canonized are they? And neither are the Jewish sages.

As we move forward toward the Kingdom, our plumb line and foundation is God’s word. And there will be a Torah in the New Covenant Kingdom for it tells us plainly in many places most notably in the Covenant Promise of Jeremiah 31, “I will write my Torah upon their hearts” and it is clear that the first century church had realized this and were living it out in their lives through messiah. As it says in Romans,

“ RO 2: [14] For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: [15] Which show the work of the law written in their hearts,”

So how are we to understand this Torah of the New Covenant and how it relates to the Torah of Sinai?

The Sinai covenant was for the people of Israel in the wilderness and in the lands of Israel. It had a Torah which regulated life. It applied also to the Gentiles who attached themselves to God and became part of Israel. But that covenant is expired, broken by Israel long ago. And the Torah of that Covenant is not valid in total.

Today we live in the New Covenant that was made through Yeshua and sealed in his blood. It also has a Torah. This Torah is written on the heart and it has many things in common with the Torah of Moshe but it is not a word for word copy of the Sinai Torah. It is transformed to be the Torah of a world wide Kingdom and to fit all people in all lands.

How do we discern what is in this New Covenant Torah? Things that Yeshua taught are part of this Torah. Things that the prophets have shown us about the Kingdom are part of the New Torah. The prophets said we will mark our days from Sabbath to Sabbath and all the world will keep his Sabbath. We should then recognize that if it is written so for the Kingdom then it is already written on our hearts and begin being obedient to it. What about the Dietary laws? Isaiah tells us about the coming of the Lord and the Kingdom:

“Isaiah, 66: [15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. [16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. [17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine’s flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.”

It seems there is a place for dietary laws in the Kingdom. So also for many other things. Much of the Old Torah is still present in the New Covenant Torah but not all.

The letters to the seven churches also provide clues when we read those things he praises and those which he condemns. The images of the New Jerusalem and what takes place there, the prophecies of Ezekiel and Isaiah, Jeremiah and others all give us information about the Kingdom of Messiah that is coming. We should be practicing those things now so that when it comes we are already in step with them.

It should be noticed that when you look at these things, you do not find the rituals and sacraments which Christianity holds so dear being practiced or enforced in the prophecies of the Kingdom. Absent is the Eucharist, praying to saints, the mother goddess of Mary, Christmas birth legends, sacrifices for the dead and many other things Christians practice. The religions of man both Jewish and Christian are to fade into history. Christology, pneumatolgy and all those other religious-ologies will be foolishness in the face of the stark reality of Messiah on the throne before us. His will be done on earth as it already is in heaven. We have prayed it and soon we will see it.

All things that are man made will fall away like children’s toys when we stand in maturity in the presence of the real thing, the Messiah Yeshua. Then those things that men invented will be shown for what they really are. Do what God says, that is our duty and our Joy.


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