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Messianic Judaism Needs to Change…

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3 comments on “Messianic Judaism Needs to Change…

  1. cfryalls
    August 13, 2013

    The discussions that follow this post linked above are very telling. I find myself very much in agreement with one poster (art and life) who defines the different sub-groups within Messianic faith. He roughly divides it into two, and I think there are even more than two. For myself, I think the best label, if we actually need one, would be “Apostolic Judaism” for that fully embraces the Gospel of Grace, and the resulting new life by the spirit, and living in the New Covenant, which produces the fruit of the spirit which defines the portions of the Torah that are binding upon us who live in Messiah. Those portions are the very ones that living in the spirit cause us to keep as Paul referred to the Gentiles who did not have the Torah but through their faith fulfil the very demands of Torah demonstrating that the Torah of Messiah is written on their hearts.

    Which Torah should we be living by, The Torah of Moshe the Old covenant, given to Israel in the wilderness?; or the Torah of Yeshua, the New Covenant, that is written upon our inward parts? Even Moshe said that there was one coming after himself whose words we must follow and whose Law would be greater authority than his own.

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  2. Shimshon
    August 13, 2013

    You caught that too huh? Yes, I liked the way he understood the divide within the movement.

    Some things he said that struck a chord with me:

    art & life: So among Torah observant (TO) MJs we have “Renewed Covenant TOMJ”s who believe we are obligated to observe Torah, and “New Covenant TOMJ”s who “serve in a new life in the Spirit” (Gal 7:6), and who observe Torah but not out of obligation. The simple distinction “TOMJ” is no longer helpful as there are 2 very different mindsets within that designation.

    Furthermore, Yeshua draws a distinction between His words and those of Moses; never does He equate Moses’ words with His own: Mt 19:8,9; Mk 10:3-5; 12:26; Lk 20:37; Jn 5:45-47; 7:19; 8:17; 10:34. It is also significant that the word Torah (nomos) does not appear in the book of Revelation. None of this is to say that the Torah is bad, or that it has been abolished. This is a false dichotomy that is set forth by RCTOMJs. The Torah is good (Ro 7:12), but something better has come in fulfillment of Torah.

    “But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the Torah, although the Torah and the prophets bear witness to it…” (Ro 3:21.)

    We are not back at square one in this discussion. This was all conclusively dealt with in the writings of the apostles. The MJ movement need only submit to their authority in order to be in cooperation with YHWH’s heart agenda.

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    This is something I’ve been saying for years! The Words Yeshua spoke were distinctly different from the words Moses spoke. And that our righteousness has been manifest apart from Torah. And that none of this is stating Torah is bad.

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